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MSB Podcast - Pilot Episode: Gill Kelly

MSB Podcast - Pilot Episode: Gill Kelly

We're excited to present the inaugural episode of the Making Stuff Better Podcast! In this pilot episode I interview my friend and business partner, Gill Kelly, about her career as an educator, leader and coach. We touch on the challenges that we can face when we're trying to help people through servant leadership and the dissonance that can arise when what we're doing doesn't jive with our personal values.